A Smiling Comment
In response to my true Grandmother tale of her four years experience of living on a farm, Taking on the Farm, a Freeper writes:
LOL! Maybe hubby and I had better rethink our ideal of living on a farm with OUR three kids (cityfolk that we are). Thanks for the smile.
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Commentary from Both Sides on the Bobbie Jo Stinnett Case
Below, in bold, are some comments from my posting on the tragic murder of Bobbie Jo Stinnett, the young woman who was strangled then had her unborn child ripped from her womb. My essay about her murderer, Lisa Montgomery, was published last week.
I responded to some of the comments/questions and my answer is in italics below the reader comments.
Death...quick trial, quick appeal that is denied, and then a big tall tree and a short rope.
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Unbelievably horrific crime. Something you shudder even talking about. Death.
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Even if she is insane there is no room in society for this freak. There is no rehabilitaion for her crime.
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One of the most shocking crimes I've read about, if only for it's cold calculation. Thank you for your account and thoughts. This was indeed well-written!
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Corrections and Brickbats Here
The following was a comment by a Blog reader. The text is correct. I misspelled Melvern, Ks as "Malvern, Ks.". Also, I did a Google search and again the reader is correct. There is no Daily News in Melvern, Ks. Indeed, as the reader asserts, there is NO daily newspaper in the town. My quote in the original article was froma MISSOURI newspaper. Apologies and thanks.
A couple of things, as I am on my way to Melvern for Christmas, where I grew up.
It's Melvern, not Malvern. Nor is there any such publication as the "Malvern Daily News Gazette", nor any other newspaper in Melvern. Ever.
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Below, from a rat terrier afficiandos group, a poster suggests that she too might have been in Lisa Montgomery's sights!
I was another person that I am convinced Lisa Montgomery had her eye on. I, too, am a rat terrier enthusiast - not a breeder, just a pet owner, but spent much time on the rat terrier boards among many, many people - including Lisa, Bobbi, Jason, Kayla - the list goes on and on. I got to know all of these people, including Lisa. In April 2004, I announced MY first pregnancy to my acquaintences on the boards. We (the group members) often talked on instant messengers. It was then that Lisa told me that she was pregnant and said "I got you beat!" - Meaning she was apparently due a week or two ahead of me. Soon after she let me know that she was knitting ME a baby blanket!! Now, let me say, I thought this was an extremely kind and gracious deed from someone I only knew from my computer screen - I thought it was a tad strange, but thought "Wow, there really are nice people out there......" BUT - now I know that she had her eye on me and was trying to get close to me. In June 2004, I very unfortunately miscarried what would have been our first child. I am convinced now that I was probably at least one of her "choices" if not her first - since we (supposedly) were due so close to one another. I believe she told me she was due on December 12th. So, this is something she had planned to a tee! I was devastated at losing our baby at 14 weeks to miscarriage, but my pain is nothing compared to the castastrophic pain that Zeb, Victoria, Kevin and Lisa's Children and families have endured. I do not believe that "everything happens for a reason" - but, I am so thankful that God kept me safe - I just regret that ANYONE else had to suffer this dispicible evil!
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Since I wrote this, which was only yesterday, some more info has come to light. Much of which verifies some of my own conclusions and speculation.
As for the baby's weight, I believe I heard that she was around 6 lbs but this is based on a vague sound byte, perhaps on Greta.
Here's a scoop on Lisa Montgomery. Her first husband, Carl Boman, was her STEPBROTHER! Not only that she divorced him once and married him again!
Also found out that Lisa had her tubes tied when she was married to Carl.
There is also, you can't make this up, some story circulating all about that Lisa was involved in some domestic type of spat involving a cousin and her mother. Seems she accused her cousin of attacking her an her sister with a knife. The boy was placed in a foster home. Right now this is very vague but I'm on top of it.
And it's true that Skidmore has a nefarious past. As for Bobby Jo being related to the guy murdered in the 80's, I haven't heard that. But I did hear there is a fellow in Skidmore related to Kevin Montgomery, Lisa's husband. This is still unclear.
I remain, true crime buff that I am, on top of it.
15 comments:
you guys in the media really do need to get your facts straight before making stories more bizzare than they already. Carl and lisa wern't ever step anything so please do your home work before you report things that aren't true I hope you get sued for wrongful reporting. You media people just like to take facts and twist them to the point that they aren't even true any more you are so sick to want to do that just to get a story out there. the people that you write about are just and you treat them like they are just there for you to malign. If you want to talk bad about things then make sure they are true thanks
I stumbled over this blog and couldnt believe the comments, there are so many lies, I was never Lisa's stepbrother. A horrible crime has been committed it has devasated people in the Stinnet family, my children, and the Montgomery's. Rise above the trash in the media. I will not defend Lisa in any way, but i am a private person, and I want to protect my kids, with one of you would like the media the lie and exaggerate about your life, have it on display? I know Lisa better than any one, and it is still a shock, Thank you Carl
Kansas City Star 1-09-05 in an article titled, "Mongomery's Family Saw Peril Approach", by Karen Dillion and Kevin Murphy email: kmurphy@kcstar.com reported: By 1986, Lisa's mother had marrried Richard Boman, a former mayor and police chief of Sperry and retired Navy Sailor. Richard Boman's son, Carl Boman, had returned from the Navy and was dating Lisa. Lisa was ready to join the Air Force as a way to pay for college when she learned she was pregnant, her mother said. She and Carl married in August 1986, her dreams of college died.
Kansas City Star, 1-09-05 in an article titled, "Montgomery's Family Saw Peril Approach", by Karen Dillion and Kevin Murphy reported: On Dec. 10, Carl Boman filed for custody of the four children he had with Lisa. Boman said in an interview he planned to use Lisa's phantom pregnancy as a way to show she was mentally unfit to keep the children.
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Why hasn't anyone looked at Kevin Montgomery? I believe is guilty of Aiding and Abedding, at the least.
Topekas Capital-Journal 12-23-04 article, "Past Pregnancy Claims False", reported Lisa Montgomery had her tubes tied in 1990. In that same article Carl Boman's Attorney, James Campbell, "recalls, one of Montgomery's daughters testifying that she had concerns about her mother "and the pregnancies". Kansas City Star, 1-09-05 article, "Montgomery's family saw peril approach" reported: Lisa had four children in a little more than three years. After her fourth child in 1990, Lisa got a tubal ligation, rendering her sterile, said Carl Boman and her sisters. Her Mother was at the hospital when the procedure was done. In that same article it reported: In December 2003, Patty (Lisa's Sister) went to her sister's home, confronted Kevin Montgomery and told him his wife could not be pregnant because she had a tubal ligation in 1990. About a week later, Jerri (Lisa's sister) and their mother (Judy Shaughnessy) went to the home of Kevin Montgomery's parents, Roger and Joy Montgomery. "My mom told them everything"., Jerri said. She warned that Lisa "was fooling you guys". Topeka Capital Journal, 12-19-04 article "Couple Showed off Newborn", reported: Mike Wheatly, Pastor of the First Church of God in Melvern where Lisa and her huband Kevin Montgomery attend church. Said, Lisa was a "small, frail woman, and he and other in town doubted she was pregnant and due to deliver in Dec., as she said". He also ask Lisa about her thinness a month ago. Kansas City Star, 12-21-04 article, "Connection Formed Before Murder, Kidnaping", reported: Pastor Mike Wheatly said that Kevin Montgomery told him that he had recently felt a baby kick inside his wife. Wheatly said he saw Lisa Montgomery in October and commented to her she looked to thin to to eight months pregnant.
In many new reports interviewing people who knew Lisa described her to be, thin, small, frail,skinny as a rail, in her pregnancy.
Kevin Montgomery is the father of 3 children in a previous 16 year marriage. He must have been aware there were NO Medical arrangements. Lisa Montgomery had a flat slim stomach the whole year of 2004. Kevin Montgomery picked his newborn up at a Long John Silvers, parking lot. He must have known, that baby wasn't his. After all he was told Lisa had her tubes tied. If Kevin Montgomery hadn't of covered up Lisa's pregnancy, BOBBIE JO STINNETT MIGHT STILL BE ALIVE!! Kevin Montgomery needs to take a Lie Detector Test.
Why hasn't anyone looked at Kevin Montgomery? I believe is guilty of Aiding and Abedding, at the least.
Topekas Capital-Journal 12-23-04 article, "Past Pregnancy Claims False", reported Lisa Montgomery had her tubes tied in 1990. In that same article Carl Boman's Attorney, James Campbell, "recalls, one of Montgomery's daughters testifying that she had concerns about her mother "and the pregnancies". Kansas City Star, 1-09-05 article, "Montgomery's family saw peril approach" reported: Lisa had four children in a little more than three years. After her fourth child in 1990, Lisa got a tubal ligation, rendering her sterile, said Carl Boman and her sisters. Her Mother was at the hospital when the procedure was done. In that same article it reported: In December 2003, Patty (Lisa's Sister) went to her sister's home, confronted Kevin Montgomery and told him his wife could not be pregnant because she had a tubal ligation in 1990. About a week later, Jerri (Lisa's sister) and their mother (Judy Shaughnessy) went to the home of Kevin Montgomery's parents, Roger and Joy Montgomery. "My mom told them everything"., Jerri said. She warned that Lisa "was fooling you guys". Topeka Capital Journal, 12-19-04 article "Couple Showed off Newborn", reported: Mike Wheatly, Pastor of the First Church of God in Melvern where Lisa and her huband Kevin Montgomery attend church. Said, Lisa was a "small, frail woman, and he and other in town doubted she was pregnant and due to deliver in Dec., as she said". He also ask Lisa about her thinness a month ago. Kansas City Star, 12-21-04 article, "Connection Formed Before Murder, Kidnaping", reported: Pastor Mike Wheatly said that Kevin Montgomery told him that he had recently felt a baby kick inside his wife. Wheatly said he saw Lisa Montgomery in October and commented to her she looked to thin to to eight months pregnant.
In many new reports interviewing people who knew Lisa described her to be, thin, small, frail,skinny as a rail, in her pregnancy.
Kevin Montgomery is the father of 3 children in a previous 16 year marriage. He must have been aware there were NO Medical arrangements. Lisa Montgomery had a flat slim stomach the whole year of 2004. Kevin Montgomery picked his newborn up at a Long John Silvers, parking lot. He must have known, that baby wasn't his. After all he was told Lisa had her tubes tied. If Kevin Montgomery hadn't of covered up Lisa's pregnancy, BOBBIE JO STINNETT MIGHT STILL BE ALIVE!! Kevin Montgomery needs to take a Lie Detector Test.
Kevin Montgomery, with his past experience in fatherhood. Surely must have been aware there wer no medical arrangements. No delivery arrangements, No medical bills, No insurance bills, No medical appointments and No Doctors fees, in Lisa's claim of pregnancy. The Montgomery's obviously had sex, if Lisa was continually getting pregnant. Lisa Montgomery had a flat slim stomach the whole year of 2004. Before and after the murder, when she brough baby "Victoria Jo Stinnett" home to her husband Kevin Montgomery.
After reading the news reports, leads any person to believe that Kevin Montgomery was AIDING AND ABEDDING Lisa with her scheme.
People do strange things for love, the lie, cheat, steal, they COVER UP and even kill.
Kevin Montgomery loved, protected and financially supported his wife!
Kevin Montgomery knew his wife Lisa M. Montgomery had her TUBES TIED!
If Kevin Montgomery had not of COVERED UP Lisa's pregnancy, BOBBIE JO STINNETT MIGHT STILL BE ALIVE!!!
If Kevin Montgomery, a Churchgoer, farm owner and a father of 3 children from a previous 16 year marriage, is as INNOCENT, as he says, there should be no problem, asking him to take a Lie Detector Test.
Kevin Montgomery had to know about Lisa and her ex-husband child custody dispute. Lisa and her children lived in the same house as Kevin for 4 years.
Kansas City Star, 1-09-05 in an article titled, "Montgomery's Family Saw Peril Approach" reported: On Dec. 10, Carl Boman filed for custody of the four children he had with Lisa. Boman said in an interview he planned to use Lisa's phantom pregnancy as a way to show she was mentally unfit to keep the children.
This is a letter being sent to Todd P. Graves and Nodaway County Sheriff, Ben Espey. They are the only two that can legally ask Kevin Montgomery to take a Lie Detector Test. I urge you to print this letter and mail it to the addressees, TODAY!
1-13-05
Todd P. Graves
United States Attorney for the Western District of Missouri
400 E. 9th St., Room 5510
Kansas City, Mo. 64106
Telephone: 1 (800) 733-6558
Copy to:
Nodaway County Sheriff, Ben Espey
404 N. Vine
Maryville, Mo. 64468
Telephone: (660) 582-7451
Dear Sirs,
In regards to the Bobbie Jo Stinnett / Lisa M. Montgomery case # 04-00210-01-JTM
Research has been done by reading the Kansas City Star, Kansas Capital-Journal, Maryville Daily Forum Online, 13 News Kansas New Leaders Topeka, KS. and the FBI reports at: www.usdoj.gov/usao/mow , Todd P. Graves website.
In conclusion, I believe Kevin Montgomery should be given a Lie Detector Test. If he’s innocent there should be no problem. I am asking you Mr. Graves and you Mr. Espey, to ask, Kevin Montgomery to take a Lie Detector Test.
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Topeka Capital-Journal, 12-23-04 in a article titled, “Past Pregnancy Claims
False”, by Barbara Hollingsworth, reported: Lisa M. Montgomery had her Tubes Tied in 1990.
Lisa Ex-husband name is Carl Boman. Carl Boman’s Attorney, James R. Campbell, 511 Neocho Street - P.O. box 122, Burlingtom, KS. 66839-0122 Telephone: (620) 364-3094, said the following.
Topeka Capital-Journal, 12-23-04 in an article titled, “Past pregnancy claims false”, by Barbara Hollingsworth, reported: Campbell recalls, one of Montgomery’s daughters testifying that she had concerns about her mother “and the pregnancies”.
Kevin knew of Lisa’s tubal ligation because he was told by Lisa’s family. He must have also been aware because of Lisa and her ex-husband Carl Boman’s child custody depute.
Kansas City Star, 1-09-05 in an article titled, “Montgomery’s family saw peril approach” by Karen Dillion and Kevin Murphy email: kmurphy@kcstar.com, reported: Lisa had four children in a little more than three years. After her fourth child in 1990, Lisa got a tubal ligation, rendering her sterile, said Carl Boman and her sisters. Her Mother was at the hospital when the procedure was done.
Kansas City Star, 1-09-05 in an article titled, “Montgomery’s Family Saw Peril Approach”, by Karen Dillion and Kevin Murphy reported. On Dec. 10, Carl Boman filed for custody of the four children he had with Lisa. Boman said in an interview he planned to use Lisa’s phantom pregnancy as a way to show she was mentally unfit to keep the children.
Lisa Montgomery’s, Mother, Judy Shaughnessy and Sister’s Patty and Jerrie said they informed Kevin Montgomery and his parents that Lisa had her TUBES TIED.
Kansas City Star 1-09-05 in a article titled, “Montgomery’s family saw peril approach”, by Karen Dillion and Kevin Murphy reported: In December 2003, Patty went to her sisters home, confronted Kevin Montgomery and told him his wife could not be pregnant because she had a tubal ligation in 1990.
About a week later, Jerri and their mother went to the home of Kevin Montgomery’s parents, Roger and Joy Montgomery. “ My mom told them everything”, Jerri said. She warned that Lisa “was fooling you guys”.
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Topeka Capital-Journal, 12-19-04 in an article titled, “Couple Showed off Newborn”, by Erin Adamson, reported: Mike Wheatly, Pastor of the First Church of God in Melvern where Lisa and her husband Kevin Montgomery attend church. Said, Lisa was a “small, frail woman, and he and others in town doubted she was pregnant and due to deliver in Dec., as she said”.
“I wouldn’t say she looked like she was nine months pregnant, he said. He also said he ask Lisa about her thinness a month ago”.
Kansas City Star, 12-21-04 in a article titled, “Connection formed before murder, kidnaping” by Kevin Murphy, David Klepper and Tanyanika Samuels reported: Pastor Mike Wheatly said that Kevin Montgomery told him that he had recently felt a baby kick inside his wife. Wheatly said he saw Lisa Montgomery in October and commented to her she looked to thin to be eight months pregnant.
In many news reports interviewing people who knew Lisa Montgomery, described her to be, “thin”, “small”, “frail”, “skinny as a rail”, in her pregnancy. Many said “Nobody believed she was pregnant”.
Kevin Montgomery is the father of 3 children from a previous marriage. HE KNOWS WHAT A PREGNANT WOMAN’S BODY LOOKS LIKE! He can’t be that profoundly ignorant! He knew Lisa purchased an entire Baby Nursery for their home, months before December 16, 2004. The day Lisa butchered Bobbie Jo Stinnett and ripped her 8 month old fetus, from her body and left 23 year old Bobbie Jo, on the floor to bleed to death.
Kevin Montgomery, with his past experience in fatherhood. Surely must have been aware there were no medical arrangements. No delivery arrangements, No medical bills, No insurance bills, No medical appointments and No Doctors fees, in Lisa’s claim of pregnancy. The Montgomery’s obviously had sex, if Lisa was continually getting pregnant. Lisa Montgomery had a flat slim stomach the whole year of 2004. Before and after the murder when she brought baby, ”Victoria Jo Stinnett”home to her husband, Kevin.
Kevin Montgomery was not present at the time of birth. Instead, he picked up his newborn baby at a Long John Slivers fast food restaurant parking lot and not at the Hospital like normal people. Did Kevin Montgomery want a baby and he didn’t care where Lisa got it from? He proudly held baby “Victoria Jo Stinnett” and put her in his nursery. He must have known that baby wasn’t his. After all, he was told, Lisa had her tubes tied.
After reading the news reports, leads any person to believe that Kevin Montgomery was AIDING AND ABEDDING Lisa with her scheme.
People do strange things for love, they lie, cheat, steal, they cover up and even kill.
Kevin Montgomery loved, protected and financially supported his wife!
Kevin Montgomery knew his wife Lisa Montgomery had her TUBES TIED!
If Kevin Montgomery had not of covered up Lisa’s pregnancy, BOBBIE JO STINNETT MIGHT STILL BE ALIVE!!
If Kevin Montgomery, a Churchgoer, farm owner and a father of 3 children from a previous 16 year marriage, is as INNOCENT, as he says, there should be no problem, asking him to take a Lie Detector Test.
Sincerely,
References and archives:
Topeka Capital-Journal, archives
www.cjonline.com
Todd P. Graves, United States Attorney for the Western District of Missouri
1 (800) 733-6558
Read the FBI Reports here:
www.usdoj.gov/usao/mow
Kansas City Star
www.kansascity.com/mldkansascitystar
Maryville Daily Forum Online
www.maryvilledailyforum.com
13 News Kansas New Leaders Topeka, KS.
www.wibw.com
It is my opinion and belief and not of this Web-site, that Bobbie Jo Stinnett was set-up by a 3rd party for money.
This work is dedicated to "Victoria Jo Stinnett", may she have a Peaceful, Long and Happy Life. May she know perfect strangers worked very hard for her piece of mind and Justice for her family.
Sincerely,
Darlene Jones
I Wish to Thank Pat for allowing me to express my beliefs and opinions. You are a gracious lady. Thank You. May you have much success with your web-site and endeavors.
Sincerely,
Darlene Jones
My name is Jason Dawson and if you have any questions I can answer let me know. Darlene Fischer although I didn't know it was a made up name. She came to my message board uner that alias asking and inquiring about purchasing puppies. Bobbie had a litter sired by one of my male dogs so I thought I was doing her a favor. My only thought is to why she contacted me on my board was to throw the police perhaps. The IP address which she posted under was one of the key pieces of evidence that busted her. This is horrific we all in the rat terrier community miss Bobbie terribly but I'm sure it's no where near how Zeb misses her and not being here to know her baby. I hope that Justice is carried out. I really do.
I have been keeping up with this site for quite some time now..and the stuff that is being said is CRAP! Do you personally know either of the families? Do you KNOW all of this stuff FOR SURE? Or are you just another one of those people out to make money on false information...wait...don't even answer that...I already know that answer!
Maybe you should do your homework before going and saying stuff that is NOT true! I know most of this FOR A FACT....so I know what I'm talking about! You need to get a life and stop picking at the wounds that are trying to heal! But if you feel that you must follow this case...then please get the information right!
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