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True Crime Update-Idaho Murders,Lunsford,Jackson,Spector; Quotables;Comments

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DATE-Tuesday, 5/31/05

Hope You Had a Happy Holiday

Which I'm thinking the United States did because pretty much nothing happened across the fruited plains.

Europe, however, is another matter.

For the voters of France rejected the vaunted European Union. A Union I know little about but I've done some research.

The EU is basically a trade association. It's not meant to be a government, per se, but rather a union of countries that all agree on, well just what the hell is Parmesan cheese, who can rightfully claim the title and just because it's bleu cheese doesn't mean it's Roquefort.

Important stuff.

The Wise I understands that the corrupt Jacques Chirac, President of France, is very mad at the voters for rejecting the EU constitution.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

from the BBC
French voters have overwhelmingly rejected the European Union's proposed constitution in a key referendum.
Almost 55% of people voted "No", with 45% in favour. Turnout was high, at about 70%.

There was also a multiple murder in Ohio, with a brother shooting his entire family. One sister survived. More on this tomorrow.

Finally, this notice passed my Ebox. To all Texas Conservatives, it seemed timely to post this that you all vote an end to liberals across the land.
Dear Austin Friends,

Please tell all your friends to vote FOR Jennifer Kim and AGAINST Margo Clarke in the Austin city council run-off. Early voting is NOW and it ends June 7th:
HERE

Saturday, June 11th is the last day to vote and people must vote at their local precincts on that day.
We are going to STOP Margot Clarke, leader of Austin's FAR Left - that I am sure of - but we need your help. Send this email to ALL your Austin friends. Here is a list of the early voting locations. Call Robert Morrow at 306-1510 or email at Morrow321@aol.com to volunteer.
Tell you friends to get to the polls and vote NOW for Jennifer Kim.HERE

We are going to send a MESSAGE to Austin's FAR Left that they don't run this town even though they think they do.


TV Events of Note

CBS: Tuesday, May 31 10:00 PM
Talk, Newsmagazine

True Story
A man wanted for murder pretends to be a reporter for the New York Times.


Original Air Date: May 31, 2005


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The Idah Murders
As of this writing, the horrific crime in Idaho where two adults and a teenager were bound and bludgeoned to death, is still unsolved. Two children who had been present at the house at the time of the murders, are still missing.

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From KREM.com

Reward offered for missing Idaho children
06:05 PM PDT on Saturday, May 21, 2005

From KING Staff and Wire Reports

Wolfinger said investigators believe the killings were not random acts of violence and are now convinced the children were in the house when the violence took place.

Kootenai County Coroner Dr. Robert West told Spokane, Wash., television reporters that preliminary toxicology results indicated the presence of "illicit drugs" in the two adults, but not in the 13-year-old. West did not elaborate on what types of drugs were found.

Authorities have received pledges of more than $70,000 for a reward fund and will work through the Secret Witness program in Spokane, Wash., to offer payments for useful information and tips, he added.

Later in the week, the investigators announce that no blood from the two children was found at the murder scene. The investigators now plainly feel that the two children are alive.

From ABCNEWS
COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho May 26, 2005 - Preliminary DNA tests showed no traces of the blood of two missing children in the home where three other people were slain, raising hopes that Dylan and Shasta Groene are still alive, officials said Thursday.

Only the blood of the three murder victims the missing children's mother and older brother and the mother's boyfriend was found at the scene, according to initial analysis by the FBI.

"There is no indication that any of the blood is from the children," Kootenai County Sheriff's Capt. Ben Wolfinger said. "It bolsters our feeling the children are alive and we'll recover them and bring them home."

So what do the investigators know that they are not telling us?

Because I’m convinced they’re on to something. The hype and hoopla to locate the missing children is nearly mute. I am reminded of the Runaway Bride and how the publicity didn’t let up until the Bride, ahem, turned herself in.

The father of the two children and victim Slade Groene, Steve Groene, earlier in the crime investigation, showed up for interviews on Greta and Geraldo. Groene admitted that he failed “some portions” of his lie detector test and the reports are that he has no alibi for the night of the crime.

The police, however, say firmly that Steve Groene is not a suspect, or person of interest, in this crime.

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So what’s going on here?

Here’s what we know so far:

Brenda Groene and Steve Groene were divorced. Brenda had custody of their youngest three children out of five, Slade, 13, one of the victims, and the two missing children, Shasta and Dylan.

On the day of the murders, Sunday, May 15, 2005, Brenda and her live-in boyfriend, Mark McKenzie, held a barbecue at their house. One of the attendees, Robert Lutner, was missing and sought by authorities. Lutner turned himself in and took a polygraph test. He was cleared of being a suspect in the crime.

All other attendees at that barbecue have been contacted, according to the authorities. Not much else is known about who was at the barbecue fest that day and so far none has come forward for a few minutes of fame on Greta.

The bodies were discovered that following Monday evening, 5/16/05 when a neighbor reported strange silence from the house when he knocked several times to pay Slade for mowing his lawn that prior Saturday.

Within a day it became known that the two younger children lived in the house and an Amber alert was put out.

We know the victims were bound and gagged and were killed by a forceful beating by a blunt object. We know the investigators are searching a nearby landfill, presumably for a murder weapon.

Early on it was mentioned several times that Steve Groene lived with his ex mother-in-law. That factoid has been left off later reports so I’m not sure this is a fact right now. But it’s pretty important if true.

Steve and Brenda has fights over visitation and police have acknowledged that both Brenda Groene and Mark McKenzie tested positive for illegal drugs but Slade did not. Steve Grone admitted he’d argued with his ex-wife the Friday before over having the children for the weekend.

Now I must speculate.

No alibi for the night of the crime and failed parts of the lie detector test? This has Steve Groene as perpetrator all over it. Yet the investigators say Groene is not a suspect. Also, in order for Steve Groene to be guilty, he would have to have murdered his own son in a horrific manner. This is difficult to believe though stranger things have happened.

The police seem very nonchalant about the missing children. Searches have been called off though there seems to be an attempt to look like they’re searching.

Strange. All very strange.

There’s also the matter of Groene having NO alibi for the night of the murders and what on earth happened with that polygraph? Also, the heretofore very vocal Steve Groene has since clammed and lawyered up.

How odd is it that Steve Groene would be living with his ex mother-in-law? How often does that happen?

I also note we’ve yet to see this “grandmother” come on TV and plead for her grandchildren’s lives.

I think Shasta and Dylan are with her.

I don’t know where. They may be in Canada for all we know.

Two scenarios come to my mind as to the identity of the Idaho murderers.

Either Steve Groene, Steve Groene AND his ex mother-in-law, or just the ex mother-in-law, hired someone to murder Brenda Groene and Mark McKenzie.

The manner of the murders does not suggest a fit of rage. It takes time and power to tie and bound three people. It’s also likely, what with Mark McKenzie being a big fellow and the necessity of subduing three people, that there was more than one murderer.

For when a son-in-law lives with an ex mother-in-law, there’s a mother that is very, very angry with her daughter. Brenda Groene does have a drug problem. Could this be enough for a mother to hire people to kill her and her boyfriend? Because it’s possible that Slade was murdered because he’d identified the perps.

Or could Steve Groene have hired someone to kill his ex wife and her boyfriend. Again, with Slade the teenager also a victim because of his most unfortunate timing of being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Perhaps the murderer(s) blindfolded the younger children and their lives were spared.

The Groenes do have two older sons but one is incarcerated. Could the son who is not incarcerated have arranged the deed in order to save his younger siblings?

Soon enough they’re going to find those children. Who I still say are with their grandmother.

And the mystery of this strange crime will be solved.

Below is a link to a true crime buff who went out to the murder site and took some pics. Check it out.

PHOTOS OF CRIME SCENE HERE
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Jessica Lunsford Documents Released

The alleged murderer, John Couey, says he kept Jessica alive in a closet in his bedroom for four days. Indeed, Couey states that his brother-in-law was once inside the room while Jessica was in the closet. Jessica’s blood was found on Couey’s bed.

Still, investigators are waffling on this story and it’s no wonder. John Couey is a frail man and usually under the influence of drugs, alcohol, or both. How could this man have kept Jessica silent for four entire days? How could he have bound and gagged her entire body to leave her unable to kick, bump her head or otherwise make noise to alert others to her presence? Once with another human being in the room?

Or could John Couey have killed Jessica the first night or shortly thereafter, and hid her DEAD body in his closet? Yes, the coroner ruled that Jessica COULD have been buried alive but couldn’t she also have been smothered under the same forensic evidence?

Not to mention that Florida DA allowing Couey’s lowlife “room-mates” walk so easily. Sure, they all denied knowing Jessica was in the trailerl.

It’s so much more believable that Jessica was hidden in the mobile home before being thrown into a shallow grave outside of the trailer, if she was already dead. Dead people make no noise.

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Brooksville, Florida - New court documents have been released in the Jessica Lunsford murder case. We now get a better idea of the case building again John Couey, the man who admitted to killing a 9-year-old Citrus County girl.

The State Attorney released more than 1,400 documents in the murder case building against sex offender John Couey. He’s accused of killing Jessica Lunsford.

The little girl was reported missing in February. After exhaustive searches by family, volunteers and detectives, her body was found within in sight of her home. Jessica's body was placed in a garbage bag and buried outside the mobile home where Couey had been living with relatives.

The documents include:

Pictures of the mobile home and shovel spotted on the ground outside, near the makeshift grave where Jessica was buried.

Witness statements that claim Couey kept Jessica alive for four days, although detectives do not confirm that was the case.

Family members tell investigators Couey had a history of sexually assaulting young girls.

The case may not go to trial until next year.

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Another Florida Child Crime but One With a “Happy” Ending
She was only 8 when a “friend” of her godmother, with whom she was staying, allegedly raped and dumped her, still alive, in a nearby landfill.

Check out that quote at the end by the godmother. The child was found alive no thanks to her “friend”.


Florida girl found buried alive in landfill
Police: 17-year-old suspect confessed, will be charged as adult
Sunday, May 22, 2005 Posted: 10:24 PM EDT (0224 GMT)

(CNN) -- Police found an 8-year-old Florida girl buried alive with minor injuries in an abandoned landfill Sunday morning, hours after she was reported abducted, according to officials in Lake Worth.

Authorities detained a suspect, identified as 17-year-old Milagro Cunningham, whom they said the girl identified as her attacker.

Searchers found the girl inside a yellow recycling bin, which was inside a 30-foot dumpster.

Boland said the suspect lived with the girl's godmother, whom she was visiting, just a few blocks from the landfill.

The girl had been staying at the home only a short time. The relationship between the suspect and the godmother was not immediately known.

Cunningham called in a false abduction report before 4 a.m. ET, describing the girl's alleged abductors and the car they supposedly drove, Lake Worth Police Chief William Smith said.

"That is bogus," Smith said. "It did not occur."

But authorities said the teen had several inconsistencies in his story and they kept him close at hand during the search.

Eventually, the girl was found alive in a nearby abandoned landfill, her body stuffed in a recycle bin and buried beneath a heap of concrete and stones. She is still recovering in a hospital.

Authorities said the girl was able to name her attacker shortly after being found.

She also asked for a pastor to "thank God for saving her life," according to the girl's godmother.

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Alleged Murderer Waits It Out on Crane

While also snarling traffic on an oft-traveled highway. This past Saturday, in the early hours of the morn, Carl Edward Roland, 41, finally accepted a cup of water from the cops. At which point he got thoroughly stun-gunned into total submission.

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Phil Spector
Trial is upcoming soon. Spector is charged in the shooting death of B-movie actress Lana Clarkson at his Alhambra mansion in early 2003. He has pleaded not guilty and is free on $1 million bail.

Get a load of his hair!

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Jackson Defense Rests Its Case
Closing arguments next week. Case may go to jury next Friday, June 3, 2005.

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Let Us Not Forget Those Nominees Who Withdrew in Disgust
UNPRINCIPLED HORSE TRADE

"The centrist 'deal' dishonors the Constitution, ignores an election, and forgets four nominees who withdrew their names as a result of Democrat obstruction...Miguel Estrada, Carolyn Kuhl, Claude Allen and Charles Pickering. It abandons nominees Saad and Myers, as well as Kavenaugh and Haynes. It leaves open the possibility of Supreme Court filibusters. It is an unprincipled horse trade of 6 up for 6 or more down."

- Former Senate judiciary staffer Manny Miranda

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How Criminals Get Free to Kill Again
"Tony Pope went to prison for bludgeoning his girlfriend to death with an iron skillet and was back out on the streets five years later despite a warning from a friend of the victim. . . . The board did not listen. On a 4-0 vote, (a Tennessee parole board) released Pope after he had served one-third of his 15-year sentence. . . . Earlier this month, Pope was charged with killing his wife with a hammer; strangling his 13-year-old stepdaughter; and fatally dropped and punched his 5-week-old son."
Associated Press, 5/18/05

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”Independent” Investigation Into Tom Delay
Travis County (Texas) District Attorney Ronnie Earle, who denies partisan motives for his investigation of a political group founded by Republican leader Tom DeLay, was the featured speaker last week at a Democratic fund-raiser where he spoke directly about the congressman."

Houston Chronicle, 5/18/05


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On the Apprentice
…from Blogcritics
Comments: Just as it should be... Donald picked the right one!!!

And look out boys...Kindra just might be the best ever!!! :)

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On The Bachelor
…from Blogcritics
Great job, Patfish. Really enjoyed your thoughts on The Bachelor. I think you\'ve summed up the finale of every reality show where a guy or girl has to make the \"agonizing\" choice of picking a girl or guy for... what? No one knows! That\'s the best part.

I was going to ask when the first gay show of this variety was going to arrive... but I\'m pretty sure Bravo did it.

[I can see how that last bit might be seen as a joke as Bravo is sometimes referred to as the Gay Channel, but I am in fact being serious.

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And What Blog Isn’t Mostly Rhetoric?
You are so misguided. Your blog is all rhetoric. I am a Conservative myself - but the thing with you guys is that you are all full of rhetoric!! How about arming your rhetoric with some relevant data. Throwing insults and ad hominem attacks is meaningless and I think that is what is wrong with the conservative voices, though well meaning!

Commenters Blog Link included in comment.
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Posted by Ray Arvand to The Kaitlyn Mae Book Blog at 5/20/2005 01:33:12 PM

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Comment on The Syndrome

ORIGINAL STORY HERE
Thank you for this wonderful story. =) Strange way it turned out... but still,pretty original. Good work. =)

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On Carnivorous Plants
Note the commenters user name ;)
It might sound odd, but there's something really cool about having carnivorous plants in the house. They can also look/smell quite nice too.

Not to mention they help keep down the flies!

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